Has anyone purchased a dog from Valleyview dog breeders in Mirboo, Victoria?
December 16, 2009 - 4:54 pm
I would be interested to know if anyone has received a puppy from Valleyview Dog breeders and had health or other problems?
Thanks for the replies. Yes, I believe they are a puppy farm and breeding off site as well. Some one mentioned they received a dog from Valleyview and it arrived sick and died. I know someone that happened to as well. Maybe they are the same person.
I would never buy an animal from a Puppy Mill.
It takes all sorts I suppose.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
I havnt but a quick look at their website..I’d be very hesitant to purchase a dog from a breeder that breed more then 2 types.
Valleyview breeds 5 plus types…which at least here in the US screams loud and clear puppy mill.
References :
December 16th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
I would never buy an animal from a Puppy Mill.
It takes all sorts I suppose.
References :
December 16th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
I know someone who did and the poor thing died. It was very sick when she got it. The place screams PUPPY MILL!
References :
December 16th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
Not sure, but with the "oodles" of these dogs in the playground at our local school in Melbourne I will enquire around tomorrow if I remember! Seems to me they are "officially" breeding mutts! If you really want a dog with guaranteed qualities go to a Poodle breeder, or a Cocker Spaniel breeder etc. Like the other answerer I would be wary of anyone breeding purely for sales to the public. Put yourself in the hands of a good breeder who KNOWS the breed you are really interested in. All these oodles simply mean people can try to tell you the dogs won’t cause allergies – not entirely true, better to go for an accredited breed. If you want a mutt (and I love mutts and purebreds alike) then don’t get scammed into paying $600+ for one!
References :
December 17th, 2009 at 12:24 am
NO.
First of all, all of those are not real breeds. Any snoodle, doodle, poo, or whatever the h*** they are going to call it, is a MUTT. thats all. Just because they are going to give it some cute name does NOT mean they should be cranked out like cars. Just because people are stupid enough to pay big bucks for these "purebred -doodles" or whatever does not mean they are pure ANYTHING.
save yourself some money and go get a mix from the shelter.
If you are looking for a mix anyway, I would just go to the pound. these are not real breeders, these are like people who mixed dogs in Sims Pets to see how they would look, but decided to do it in real life. They are just mutts, and there is no reason to purposely breed them and give them dumb names when there are thousands of the same mixes about to be killed in shelters.
References :
December 17th, 2009 at 12:55 am
why pay good money for a mixed breed mutt? Buy from someone who breeds ONE kind of purebred dog
References :
Puppymill rescues sad cases
December 17th, 2009 at 1:34 am
Valley View dog breeder is what you call a Puppy Farm or Puppy MILL. A breeder to AVOID at all cost. I don’t believe its the typcial cage farm, i believe this is one of those tricky open MILL, which make it quite challenging. However the conditions will still be FILTHY. There no way they be able to properly socialise the pups with human contact with that amount of animals. So buying a pup would guarantee health issues and temperment issues particular fear related due to lack of handling at a young age. These pup will receive little to no human contact.
If you want a designer mutt check your local animal shelter.
Red flags
1.Way more then 2 breeds of PUREBRED DOGS
They have mutts of Labradoodles=Labrador x Poodle,
Schnoodles=Schnauzeer x Poodle,
Spoodles=Spaniel x Poodle
.Roodles=Rottweiler x Poodle
Maltipoo=Maltese x Poodle
At least 4 varieties of mutt mixes
Purebreds listed
Labrador
Schnauzer
Cocker Spaniel
Rottweiler
Poodle
Have 5 differient purebred dogs
These are common traits of a PUPPY FARM!
Number 2; Delivery- This screams a RED flag a responsible breeder would NOT want to ship by air or meet at the local airport. They want you to meet at the Kennels. This breeder obviously trying to avoid you meeting the kennel and seeing the shocking conditions where there pup live.
Number 3; Very Very poor guarantee. They just offer to replace a defective puppy. A reputable breeder will guarantee at least 2years. However remember NO reputable or responsible breeder would consider breeding MUTTS
Number 4; The downright lies on the Page Labradoodles LOW shedding, The cockerpoo low shedding, Realtiy is POODLE X in 99% of cases will shed like the main breed, IF lucky only 1% of pup from these Poodle mixes will be low shedding
If you are planning on investing in one of these breeds (the goldendoodle, the cockapoo, spoodles, roodles,schnoodles, maltipoos, I guess that’s your prerogative, but please just hear me out first.
What is This New Fad?
If, somehow, you have missed it, there’s a new trend in celebrity dog ownership: strang, unnatural crosses of unhealthy dogs that people pay thousands of dollars to own. They call them "designer dogs."
Look at these Amazon links to the left! There are books now about these popular dog "breeds," describing their temperaments and how to raise them. Again with the wanting to smack people. These animals are not a new breed; they are mutts! Accidents!
Now, I’m all for the owning of mutts. I, myself, have never had anything else. But to breed (that is, intentionally) is to choose two champion animals with a high quality of various traits and to test the parents for congenital diseases. Puggle, labradoodle, pekepoo, or any other cutesie-named dog breeders are not doing this. They are picking cute animals and forcing them to breed beyond their capacity. They are not breeding to "improve the breed." They are breeding solely to make money, and that poses problems for the animals and for their owners.
So Why Not Get One?
Well, sure, they’re cute! They’re dogs, and these specific ones are designed to be cute! But they’re also a fad, and if you’ve ever given in to one, you know that they don’t last. When you get a dog, you are committing to him for life, not for however long you happen to want him around.
And even if you want to carry your dog around like our friend Jake does, the dog is not a child either. In fact, I recommend the hub entitled Is a Dog Human? for more on that. The answer is, basically, no, and if you expect this designer breed to act as a human in your family, you will only disappointed. These dogs are not special or exempt from that rule because they are "designer."
What is to be Done?
Still think you need one of these "designer hybrids"? Think you can’t even deal with adopting a brand new, accidental "hybrid" from the pound? .
Basically, all that can be done to overcome this destructive fad is to keep a level head. If you want a Labrador x Poodle, or Schnauzer x Poodle or Spaniel x Poodle I almost guarantee there is one at your local shelter. But if you buy a "labradoodle", "Schnoodle", "Spoodle" etc you are encouraging puppy mill and backyard breeders to breed more trendy dogs who will not necessarily be healthy.
Pet overpopulation is enough of a problem in this country. Please don’t add to the problem.
Myth 2. Poodle x make all litters low shedding and allergy friendly
Fact; 99% of Poodle x will shed and are NOT good for allergy suffers, IF lucky only 1 out of all Poodle mixes will be low shedding. Some pups appear not to shed, but when the adult coat comes in, it start shedding between 18month2years. Later to be surrended to the local animal shelter.
Don’t be fooled by the whimsical names, the intriguing descriptions, and the high prices! It’s just a lot of poo. You can find “designer dogs” of every size, shape, color and personality as close as your local humane society or rescue service and at a far more reasonable cost. Why not visit there first and save a life? You’ll be glad you did!
References :
http://hubpages.com/hub/The-Fad-of-the-Designer-Mutt
http://hubpages.com/hub/The-truth-about-designer-mutts
http://www.canismajor.com/dog/poodogs.html
Now for places to get MUTTS ANIMAL SHELTERS ARE THE ONLY REPUTABLE SOURCE. Visit your local animal shelter. remember very few animal shelter will have all avaialble online.
Lort Smith Animal Hospital
Keysborough Animal hospital-they seem to have a high percentage of designer mutts end up there, i seen pugalier, cavoodles, labradoodles, goldendooles,,cavoodle. in the last couple of months and this animal shelter will call them by there designer name.
RSPCA, think there 5 branches in victoria. However they generally list as Poodle x, Beagle x or Schanuzer x they don’t like calling them Goldendoodle, or Labradoodles, however i seen these designer name pop up occassional
Numerous other ones as well.
here are link to a general animal shelter adoption website.
http://www.petrescue.com.au/
Purebred breeders-Ring the number on the page regardless
http://www.labvic.org.au/puppies.html
http://www.dogsvictoria.org.au/Clubs.asp?ClubID=348
http://www.rottweilerclubofvictoria.com/site/index.php?id=30
http://www.poodleclubofvictoria.com/puppiesavailable.cfm
How to find a good dog breeder
http://www.humanesociety.org/assets/pdfs/pets/puppy_mills/how_find_good_dog_breeder.pdf
Red flagging a dog breeder
http://dogs.about.com/cs/generalcare/a/breeder_flags.htm
I am not a toy-Explaination about puppy mills and backyard breeder
http://www.girl.com.au/i-am-not-a-toy.htm